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Why is the EU forcing people to start pensions with the pension industry.
The pension industry steals the pension and even break the laws and leaves
the pension holder with little or sometimes a massive loss. ?
The pension industry is careless and worthless.
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The EU isn't forcing you to do anything of the sort, and you claims sounds pretty baseless.
The EU doesn't even have the authority to make everyone have a pension.
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| Many MEPs are demanding pensions by force. MEPs put pressure on Irish government, want that money grant
do as you are told or you do not get the grant. Economic
control. Embezzlement taking money which is under their control, but not theres. Difficult to discuss in detail on a forum but I do have proof. I know the pension laws completely. I think you need education, I have been studying pensions for 5 years. The pension industry has bankrupted many large businesses.
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Ok your claims still sounds fairly outrageous.
Why can't you discuss this on a public forum?
You say you have proof, and that you know all the pension laws, so what's stopping you from filling us in?
It shouldn't be a problem if you are as knowledgeable about the issue as you claim.
How can you expect people to debate you on this forum if you don't properly explain what you're talking about?
Also, if it's as you claim it is, I wanna know too!
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| I would need to show pictures. Embezzlement taking money which is under their control, but not there’s. The pension trustee is the legal and responsible owner of the pension
not the pension industry. I would need your email address. Pension crime is supported by government.
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An interesting claim load1234. Still lack proof though, or any kind of evidence at that.
Why do you need email addresses?
You can post pictures on the forum.
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| Pension law makes Trustee number 1 boss. Trustee
An individual or a company which alone or jointly
becomes the legal owner of property to be administered
for the benefit of someone else (the beneficiaries),
in accordance with the provisions of the document
creating the trust and the provisions of trust law
generally and the Pensions Act. Any person may be
appointed as a trustee, and a corporate body can also
be selected. Terms and conditions states the trustee will hold
the benefits of the pension. Terms and conditions are broken. Embezzlement taking money which is under their control,
but not theres.
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The problem is the cost of these cases. The cost is high because members
of government are supporting Pension crime.The pension industry put fake stories in the newspapers
and also put out fake books or silly books. It is difficult to get to court due to cost and corruption. The stock market is good for investing long term however investment crime is not good for anyone.
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So, from your last two posts, this is nothing to do with the EU.
Trusts and Trustees are a matter of equity law, and have been in Ireland for some time. If Trustees are in breach of their obligations, there may be recourse through the national courts.
You also mention "government" and "fat cats".
None of these issues are related to the EU (whether that be either the EU's authority or competence).
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| All of the contributions from load 1234 are scandalous nonsense. You don't know anything about the pensions industry in Ireland not to mention the EU. If you did you would not have posted the first question.
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| Give us the laws to proof your are right you can not do so ? MEPs are saying people should be forced to do pensions even when it is a bad idea for a person to do this. No response message send here 20 of August 2009 why I am right. Now you will try to lie and cheat. People will not be fooled. I know you are trying to stop a honest discussion on this.
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| Pension industry are involved in crime supported by government. They steal pension funds from trustees. This is only possible with government help. It is very difficult for Trustee to get to court due to pension industry corruption. I have been studying pensions and pension industry for many years. I have also worked in the pension industry.
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load1234 (03/09/2009)
Give us the laws to proof your are right you can not do so ?
MEPs are saying people should be forced to do pensions even when
it is a bad idea for a person to do this.
No response message send here 20 of August 2009 why I am right.
Now you will try to lie and cheat. People will not be fooled.
I know you are trying to stop a honest discussion on this.
To reiterate again, the EU is not forcing you to take a pension. If you can prove otherwise, we'll gladly look into it.
Given your concerns about MEPs wanting to force pension upon people, we suggest you contact your local Member of the European Parliament. Details here: http://www.europarl.ie/irish.html
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MEPS talk about Ageing Europe MANDATORY PENSION PROVISION
however if banks are allowed to steal pension funds
then this is a waste of time.Why this is a Europe issue, Many banks and insurance companies operate in
many European countries Euro will be worthless if banks are allowed
to steal funds without punishment. What I need to know how to get justice when
a bank or insurance company steals a
pension fund from the trustee ??????????????? Solicitors do not want to take on
Large pension company they might
be looking for work there next year
and they pay good long term rates. The stealing crime is supported by government.
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| Sorry - but it's hard to make out what you're talking about. Can you clarify a bit please?
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The insurance company will not return the funds to
the trustee (the management). Terms and Conditions
say the trustee will hold the benefits of the plan.
The pension has failed so the trustee want the money
returned so it can be invested correctly some where
else. It is called fraud, Embezzlement taking money which is under their control,
but not there’s or keeping someone else money when you are not allowed
to keep their money or stealing. To make it simple banks and insurance companies are stealing people's money and the government organisations agree they should be allowed to steal peoples money.
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